Okay, your piston seal is bad. I obviously wasn’t going to do that free hand. The valves of air and CO2 guns need a small amount of lubricant. And that way, the gun managed to propulse the pellets out of the barrel, and the shot was smooth -in my unexperienced opinion. According to the Ballistol Material Safety Data Sheet at http://www.co.vermilion.il.us/MSDS/EMA/ballistol%20MSDS.PDF. The oil must be silicone chamber oil because of the high heat the gun generates when it fires. Another way to do this is to stand the rifle on its butt and drop two drops of oil down the barrel. Let the gun stand on its butt for a couple hours before shooting. Some of our experimentation with a Lee hand reloading tool and that Springfield is the reason that I wear heading aids today. Old springers, we’re talking 20+ years old, probably used leather seals vs polymer seals. Two popular choices would be Crosman Silicone Oil and also RWS Chamber Lube. My concern will be the first timers who have bought a modern “magnum” springer for the speed and suddenly finds himself with a heavily dieseling or detonating air rifle. It keeps the leather supple enough to do its job. bullet in a 30.06 is not a winner. I did try an old sheet after you suggested it, but it blew through on every shot. Though it smells fishy, because (I think) it is made in some way from fish. I would guess that you disposed of all the WD-40 following that experience. Only a top maker like Air Arms will position their barrel for a central port, then make the metalwork to make it flow. Pope was a genius and produced apex barrels using simple machinery and tooling and a generous helping of patience. I sprayed it on the surface of my table saw thinking it would prevent rusting…wrong again, also useless for that application. You can also oil all the hinge points of the cocking linkage with household oil or good gun oil. Do you mean just WD-40, or are there others? I have wondered if the amber glasses I was wearing had anything to do with it, but I don’t know. Like you I am also very much into fine watches, although I am only able to to own only a handful at most at any one time. But it is now making me wonder what. Thanks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-1lgK8KHeE. I couldn’t see anything through that sight except amber (lines I believe, but not clear on that). I haven’t had WD-40 in the house for the last 40 years. We break down what you need to know about oiling your air rifle, including what to use, what not to use, and how often. That included what he claimed was a Pope black powder rifle. Yet some gun stores have never heard of it. The finest target rifles barrels are choked. I had jerry rigged a backstop that caught about 70% of the pellets for the report I did on 10/17/17. The most expensive set of tapered screwdrivers (think Snap On tools) are not as good as a cheap set of hollow ground. The LG (stands for Luft Gewehr, which is German for air rifle) 55 rifle was followed by Walther’s LGV — the top of their spring-piston target rifle line. I also have found that it will turn yellow and get gummy over time. A:. Will be interested in how yours does. There must be some kind of conspiracy to keep using antiquated slotted screws. I layered them such that the spaces between the cloth strips are covered by the layer of strips in front of it. But this is a basic tutorial. As I wrote this report I was examining my own LGV target rifle, which is as close to a 55 as I have. If you see them, don’t shoot the gun any longer until the seal is replaced. Coduece At that time there was a backwoods gun shop in a tiny town (~150 souls) that my friend, Ed and I frequented. Two raw teen-agers could fumble themselves to decent 100-years accuracy using a WWI rifle by blind experimentation. Isn’t that the LGV Olympia you used way back in 2013 to see how accurate a 10 meter gun would be at 50 yards just for fun? Might be good to know the difference between dieseling and detonating. It’s great for drying the points on a wet distributor, but keep it away from your guns. Then I remembered what I spent on that Meopta spotting scope. Yes for same reasons I mentioned but I like to mount a scope on some pistols for the extra weight it adds for stability. Jean, that’s all that comes to my mind at the moment. Modern airguns are actually designed to mostly be maintenance-free. There is no residue from gunpowder and lead pellets that move at less than 800 feet per second don’t leave deposits in a well-rifled bore. The the other two an AA heavy 5.52 and the Predator had basically only engraving on the skirt. – buy the proper pellets for my gun, in my case flat-nosed pellets. Larry As targets I have in mind to use the paper Dixie cups that you’d use to rinse your mouth with after you brushed your teeth. And did you try anymore guns with the Blaster bb’s? Most air rifles will have some sort of device attached to the muzzle, and it’s far easier to both spray the oil and clean the barrel with this removed. Yes, of course it would. I bought some Ballistol a while back and have found it to be an excellent lubricant. I’m not sure. Leather seals need lots of oil on the piston seal. Pyramyd Air used to sell a decent set made by B-Square for around $15 that easily fits in a range bag or drawer. I recall some “hot loads” that caused ear pain. I will say that learning about Ballistrol is one of my most important discoveries from this blog–great stuff! Weight is no problem for me because I do what you do; backyard plinking. Coduece I am not sure where mineral oil enters into the medical realm, but that is what he said. That is the air transfer port. As much as we have been conditioned with the need to turn a wrench or twist a screw, the best thing we can all do for our airguns is simply just get out and shoot! What is the right type of oil for air rifle use? I lost money when it was sold. Duct tape is still in the arsenal…can’t be without a roll of that . Sometimes you will see chunks of a yellow or brown waxy material in the barrel. Then pull each up about 6 inches and tie to the ceiling. Just passing it on. Look at the TX 200. So I’m thinking you mean measuring center of pellet hole to center of pellet hole for your group size? When your airgun is fixed it will generate too much pressure that a re-used pellet cannot contain. Look at the flat end of the spring tube that is now exposed and you will see a small hole that aligns with the rear of the barrel when it’s closed. Use the lint-free rag to wipe up excess oil. Oil is common in a spring rifle and often gets in the barrel from firing pellets. that is amazing! Another way to do this is to stand the rifle on its butt and drop two drops of oil down the barrel. A spring-piston airgun works by means of a piston being shoved forward by a spring when the gun fires. Diana target rifles (models 60, 61, 65, 66 and 75) also have this problem. It’s a great gift, and I would like to keep it in good condition. In many ways airguns are more Zen-like, more subtle than firearms. Back in the 1880s Harry Pope, the man who hand made the world’s most accurate barrels, started making his barrels with a 0.001-inch choke. Stop shooting until you get another one in the rifle. Thanks! I believe I need to start by using the hand gun with a rest to zero the sight. I actually returned my first pellet rifle because the first shot was too loud for my neighborhood. Drop one drop of silicone chamber oil into this hole, then uncock the rifle by holding the barrel at the muzzle, pulling the trigger and slowly letting the piston go forward. I’ve been pretty happy with the advent of using Torx screws after buying a set of drivers. So if you have an oldie but a goodie, be sure to give it the TLC that it needs. Cañón abatible Carabine. And then clean it with a bronze or nylon brush. It can be quickly mounted on almost anything and give you a fair idea of accuracy potential. The amount of air compressed is very small, but the pressures generated are quite high. Napier pellet lube is just engine flush for cars, packaged in tiny bottles and charged the same amount as for a whole bottle of engine flush. 10 shots into sub 1″ at 100 yards is nothing to sneeze at either, let alone every barrel. However, a good rule of thumb is to NOT go crazy oiling and lubing your airgun. – order a new seal and chamber oil – but how can I know which seal is right for my gun? One of the more popular millwright sayings goes jack of all trades master of none. They might work very well, but I haven’t tested a vintage Walther with lead-free pellets, so I don’t know how it will perform. At what distance was you shooting the Blaster bb’s at that Harbor Freight moving blanket? Maybe he can tell you? Anything to report on the Maximus or hand pump? It’s humpbacked because of that feature. When in my late ‘teens, a friend and I bought a Springfield ’03/A3 through an NRA program for the princely sum of $25. Could you write an article about basic airgun maintenance and important things to check when laying hands on an old gun? Spring-piston airguns have no valves. I will eventually set it on two cheap camera tripods that I have ordered, but for now I’ll have to rig up something temporary. You need to be big, strong and experienced to shoot accurately with a powerful break barrel air rifle. Unlike conventional firearms air rifles do not require cleaning after every use. I guess if I’m gonna make up new terminology I should use it correctly. The idea is for the Blasters to be able to deflect the strips enough to keep from punching a hole right away, but still be able to strip off enough energy that the BB will drop into a tray before it gets through all the layers. The matter of oiling an air gun is a touchy subject with tons of debate. One drop on the top of each CO2 cartridge will help the seals last a lot longer. Airguns, by contrast, demand much more hold, pellet choice, after-purchase tuning and so on. A lot of people wonder if there is a substitute they can use to oil their air gun such as lubricants and cleaners typically used with firearms. Before I shoot the Blasters from another gun I will probably repeat the 10 mag string with the XBG to see if I get similar groups with each of the ten mags. If I had shot another pellet the sound may have been much less. I was never able to fix that one, because the WD-40 reacted with the thin silver plating. What About Exterior Lubrication & Protection? Break Barrel Rifle Carabina. Yes your correct the center pellet an HN FTT 5.53 is the most accurate pellet so far in both my HW50 and Marauder both in .22 cal. Don’t cut corners because doing so could cause serious damage and even possibly serious injury. I said it would remain forever, but I didn’t know about Almagard back then. If that’s the case, why are so many guns ( all of mine) set up this way instead of being centered? Again, the manufacturer will be the best source of information about your specific airgun. products sale 2019. Drop 5-10 drops of oil through this slot then cock and uncock the rifle several times to spread it around. I was at 21 feet (7 yards) and I was shooting the XBG the I used in the testing that I did last Tuesday. This one has Maccari internals and a very nice, light trigger. Tune-in-a-Tube is designed to do just that. I guess I bring this mentality to guns. I figured the vibration wasn’t a good sign, and your article perfectly describes the situation! When I returned 4 years later the WD-40 had turned to yellow varnish, gumming the actions of all guns. His most accurate barrel once put 10 rounds into 0.2-inches at 220 yards! No! ... small amount of special GAMO oil to the barrel pivot, the two cocking-lever pivots, and the The bullets were loaded from the muzzle even though cartridges were used. Sharing information and experience is so valuable. The only use I have found for WD-40 is for removing tar from the paint on your vehicle. It was made to shoot target pellets. I have to say pretty much the way I would of said it too. It developed a buzz while in storage? It’s easy to think about cleaning your air rifle during the times you are using it, but if you are going to be putting it away for awhile a little extra oil is great for protection. I think it cocks easily, although it’s the first airgun I’ve ever had. Sadly the carrier damaged the scope, so there is a claim to sort out. Don’t be tempted to use WD-40, 3-in-1, or some other option just because it’s convenient. It also gaves an interesting velocity and accuracy comparison of seated pellets vs pellets flush with the breech. Humidity can be incredibly damaging to most airguns, especially the lower end airguns, as they tend to not have the same resilience to the elements. Copyright © 1999-21 PyramydAir.com. If it’s synthetic, you can oil it once every 6 months with regular use or once every 1,000 shots. HiveSeeker The fact that the rifle still shoots smooth tells me the mainspring is probably in good shape. BTW bought a very nice.22 cal RWS model 94. Yes. They aren’t too expensive. Is it smooth? And you are right,.. sometimes it is better to just cut your losses and spend the money. Thank you so much for writing this article, I am truly overwhelmed. Read the manual and if you have more questions, never hesitate to pick up the phone and give them a call. I have this set in my range bag. Marvellous stuff. Regarding dot sights, cheap or otherwise. For a large kit on your bench I like Magna Tip but Wheeler also sells advanced/larger kits that are worthwhile. Also, when taking your air rifle out of storage a cleaning is a good idea. How do you know when it is time to oil your air rifle? I knew Ballistol was good but it never ceases to amaze me. By that time, technology was replacing spring-piston air rifles for target use, and Walther’s LGR, a single stroke pneumatic that would come out in 1974, was far and away a more refined target rifle. Stood in water for a week with no rusting?!! I do have a set myself. His rifles are called muzzleloading breechloaders. Another good write-up and reminder on some basics, which we old folks sometimes forget! The seal in the Walther LG 55 is synthetic, and the original ones have a problem. I need to stop trying to be frugal (read cheap) and buy a new had pump. Some blog advice which I’ve found useful is to just keep shooting offhand and correct for tendencies that you find. Or I guess I should say what affects your shot the most? Deck sniper, . I’m just trying to be proficient in all aspects of shooting. It evens them out. I suppose the rested zero will get you on target, but I believe that the rested zero will also be significantly different from you offhand zero. Inspect the breech for signs of damage. It is almost too good to be true. This is the oil that dissolves rust. WD-40 and duct tape are the two handyman staples for a lot of folk. Taking us off topic here, but are you still planning to try some holographic sights? Oiling is essential to the longevity and performance of your air gun so it is imperative […], Please Note: You must be 18 years of age or older to order and conform to all laws governing the use and ownership of airguns in your local area. The reason I put this report in the historical section is because these older spring-piston airguns often have leather piston seals. How about a warning ⚠️ against using water displacing lubricants. Apply a few drops of synthetic air gun oil to the breech. The comparison of the seating of pellets to a compression chamber and piston was just what I needed. 10 shot, 0.2″, 220 yds.,.. ( actually it’s more of a curtain that is 5 feet wide and 14 inches high) I set about a dozen of the really small dixie cups on a strip of OSB in front of it and as long as my misses didn’t impact the wood the BBs fell into the collector. Tell us how your rifle shoots. But what makes your consistency go away. You know, it’s ironic in a way. . I am amazed at the things I need to have reiterated. I’d like to see how the lines look on one of them. Kevin If you have ANY questions specific to your airgun, don’t hesitate to reach out to the manufacturer and get the 411. Thanks for the update. Here is a closer look at the transfer port. I ordered mine in .22 and am open to getting another in .177 once I see how the production gun in that caliber is received. I needed reminding that two drops of silicone chamber oil down the barrel does the same job as a direct application if the rifle is left standing barrel up for 12 hours. They always have been, but most shooters are unaware of it. Wooden stocks as well as synthetic stocks also need regular care and attention if they are to stay looking their best. These guys know nothing of the insides of spring guns, and they may not be as deep into airguns as you and I. https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/B_Square_Professional_Gunsmith_Screwdriver_Set/1007. If the pellet starts moving very slowly, to the point of not coming out of the barrel, the seal is bad. Saturate a soft rag with Ballistol and keep it in a plastic bag to wipe down your air rifle after handling. If you notice the pellet start coming out slower (it will be very slow) the seal needs replacing. I’m not sure what to do about it. Before I went to Germany I sprayed the actions and barrels of all my guns before storing them at my mother’s house. We answer all the most commonly asked questions right here so you can take care of your gun and get back in the action without worry. This is the oil that coated my friend Mac’s gun collection that stood in water for a week and never rusted! Obviously I hope, this is not good advice for hunters who don’t want to carry the extra weight. The point is just to add an extra coat of protection. I had never heard of Pope but Harry had a Pope biography which he loaned me. FWB (or somebody) did have a central port and an angled channel, so the barrel could be in the normal place. Even so, I hope that reviews about it How To Oil Rifle Barrel And How To Zero A Break Barrel Air Rifle will be useful. I shot a few pellets in my backyard yesterday, before reading this article. Thank you for this information. Taking care of your air rifle is critical to its longevity and optimal performance. If the gun vibrates hard or has a sharp jolt when shot — especially if it jumps forward a lot, the seal needs replacing. This oil keeps the air gun working properly by leaving behind oil on seals and o-rings used in CO2 cartridge air guns. Nothing yet. However, I need to stop buying and focus on learning to use the guns that are in my home, rather than adding more. Your Walther’s barrel is rifled very well and the gun shoots a lot less than 800 f.p.s. Thanks for the advice! ( I used your sheet suggestion as a funnel, except I substituted a split, heavy plastic trash bag) The cups were a perfect target and the Blasters went through them without deflecting over, under or around my trap and they were knocked cleanly from the 2″ wide plank that they were set up on. I fired a full mag of 19 rounds at one spot and it caught all of them. Maybe that wasn’t a good idea, but since the pellets that got stuck in the barrel didn’t seem damaged, I tried using them a second time. Depending on where you live, the most critical area of your airgun that you’ll want to protect and preserve is actually the exterior. If doesn’t get any easier than that. They all do, and will eventually fai, regardless of whether the gun is fired. Disassembly is the most positive way to know if your gun has an original seal that’s gone bad or a new seal, but most new airgunners don’t want to do that. Reputed to be a nicer Diana 34. Not meaning to pry. You don’t have to know airguns to recognize the quality of this rifle. Is there an air gun oil substitute? WHAT?! That is quite astounding. For this process, you want to lubricate the inside of the barrel. Springfield Armory M1A Underlever Pellet Rifle, Powered by WordPress. A blanket or sheet hung from the ceiling works nice. When it comes to oil for air rifle use, it isn’t about choosing the right brand, it’s about making sure that you are using the right TYPE of oil. Couple that with the attention span of a ten year old and add in some declining vision and those are just the physical maladies. Those are flat-nosed pellets called wadcutters. The owner, Harry, was a character but knew guns and gun lore. Bought an RWS model 94, made by Comita to RWS specs. I think that’s good news that the Blaster’s were shooting through. Sounds to me like you just need to back up some more from the blanket or target. Which works great for me as I have a lot of different interests. If you are so new that you can’t tell if the forward recoil is excessive, better stop and have someone who knows airguns examine the rifle. Man — are you right about that! Spread the oil with a rag and scrub to remove lead accumulations left in the breech by pellets. A 40 gr. The good news is, it’s pretty easy to find out without disassembly — by examining the rifle closely and by shooting it. Halfstep Thanks, and I’m hoping for something under $100 which may restrict the choices to red / green dot sights rather than actual holo. If your GAMO air rifle has an open rear sight, it is adjustable for windage and elevation. There is a great possibility of the oil finding its way into the bore of the barrel. get low cost} prices Air Rifle Lethality And Air Rifle Oil Barrel now.Air Rifle Lethality And Air Rifle Oil Barrel On Sale . The temptation to use these rather than getting the appropriate lube might lead to bigger problems down the road. Pellets kepts getting stuck close to the end the barrel, and at every shot I felt the gun vibrate. When this is repeated with every shot, the airgun seals get damaged with the high heat and the gun stops working. As far as accuracy I have been very busy lately so I’ve not been shooting for accuracy much this past month. The original seals have all gone bad and the material they were made from is not being used anymore. To oil, cock the rifle but don’t close the barrel. These are among the most common types of lubricant and found in most homes. Wouldn’t it be better for them to use lithium grease or better yet Almagard to lubricate their mainspring instead of gun oil which can migrate forward and cause detonation? When you see them you know for certain the rest of the seal is gone, too. Once I have done that, the next gun that I use will probably be a Colt Python in BB only( not the Pellet/BB version that you have, although the results may still be pertinent to your gun) I’ll put the results in a comment within a day or two of getting the results and, of course, I have to find time in there somewhere to play with my Stormrider ! You have a very desirable version if the 55 — the one with double-set triggers. Your LG 55 is a target rifle. And thanks for the link. The material the original piston seals are made of dry rots over time. The air gun and pellets should be kept in separate and secured places. Again, that you so much for this clear and well-written article, that applies perfectly to my situation. Following directions I obtained online I saw the light (pun intended). I alternated like that for 4 layers per wooden strip. It’s wonderful for applying on the outer metal parts of any gun to prevent rusting finger prints and such. TIPS….If you buy a set make sure the bit and driver marry with a good magnet. The higher the FPS, the longer and heavier it will be. If so .750″ and .500″ is pretty darn good for both guns. When a CO2 gun is fired rapidly, the expanding gas cools the surrounding metal … Even an out of proportion large scope can do wonders for accuracy. This is the oil that’s used all over the world by armies for their automatic weapons. I book marked it. Although, I do like to wipe the rifle … You living in a highly humid environment. Then tie a string to each bottom corner of the blanket and maybe one in the middle. “I just received an LG cal 4.5 mod 55 Walther’s patent air rifle. I’m not opposed to gun makers using Allen type screw heads. Here’s some pretty interesting reading I stumbled across on this topic: http://www.instructables.com/id/When-a-Phillips-is-not-a-Phillips/ Thanks. Starting over with air guns now. It pretty much is my maintenance routine, until I send the rifle to Derrick. For my groups would actually be -.75,and .5. Always keep the air rifle out of reach of children. The reason I’m telling you this is because you need to oil the piston seal from time to time. They are about the size of a shot glass and at 21 feet should present plenty of challenge and give about a 95% hit rate if I do my part with the XBG that I used in that report. Shop for Best Price Nitro Venom Break Barrel Air Rifle And Oil Rifle Barrel .Compare Price and Options of Nitro Venom Break Barrel Air Rifle And Oil Rifle Barrel from variety stores in usa. In pellet rifles the choke makes all pellets leaving the muzzle the same size. The matter of oiling an air gun is a touchy subject with tons of debate. Is it accurate? Please don’t. Look in the barrel for chunks of a yellow or brown material. You can shoot other shapes if you want, but wadcutters are what your rifle was designed for. They lose over 150 FPS at twelve yards from this gun. But you might buy a spare one for the future. The one rule of thumb to bear in mind is that y0u should never oil your barrel. The oil must be silicone chamber oil because of the high heat the gun generates when it fires. Stop shooting until it is replaced. Pry away that’s how I learn. B.B. Whether that was true doesn’t matter — to a man they loved their dot sights on those pistols. Very informative. Specifically with a drop of RWS Chamber Lube or Crosman’s Pellgun Oil. Shooting some pumpkins with my HW50. I thought it was to add to the “cool” factor of the gun. I thought at one time that it was a good lubricant….WRONG! I am rapidly becoming one of those older men. Considering a red dot or similar, and I can go 11mm or Picatinny. One of the most important matters is oiling and/or lubricating your air rifle to make sure all the internal components operate with minimal friction and wear. It depends of the comments. Also I want to share that PA now lists the Diana Stormrider as “IN STOCK” and mine should be delivered by Monday. +1 on Ballistol. I said all my guns were offset, but I own an RWS 52, so I was wrong. To oil, cock the rifle but don’t close the barrel. This project is about shooting indoors. Modern piston seals for spring and gas ram airguns actually have lubricant impregnated into their composition which is released when shot. Ballistol is medicinal grade white mineral oil with some Isobutyl Alcohol added. While you’re oiling, cleaning and doing regular maintenance on your airgun take a moment and check to make sure all of your screws are still snug. Just kidding. Even silicone spray does a better job of lubrication were oil isn’t an option but never on an airgun. Paper towels have a place, but I feel they may have a mildly abrasive quality, and then they’re linty you can’t beat cotton imho. I don’t think that I’d pursue this further if it were not for the community around this matter. Oh, Man, am I crying (almost literally) for you. I installed the Gamo green dot sight on the Daisy/Hatsan. That’s what I was hoping would happen with the Blaster’s. The same will go with a synthetic stock as you want to make sure that you use something that will not break down the plastic or composite materials. It doesn’t need it. I didn’t observe any yellow-brown material, nor did the gun jump forward when shooting. And I’m aware of the humpback shape that you mentioned. And hope I am a section of letting you get a greater product. If you are shooting paper be sure to get one that adjusts to a tiny dot. Maybe some other stuff added in too? Also, lubricate all the pivoting points on the cocking arm. The metal spring will tend to resonate when shot, sort of like ringing a bell. I have one piece of advice on cleaning the barrel. This question is going to be best answered by the manufacturer of your airgun. I hate guns with buggered screws Please do yourself a favor and buy a cheap gunsmithing set of hollow ground bits. The piston compresses the air that travels through the transfer port to the back of the pellet. What is the Best Oil for the Internals of your Air Rifle? The extra drop will stay on the inside of the barrel. Fascinated by your referenced blog on the LGV Olympia. Add a few drops of oil to the patch, then run the patch through the barrel to coat the inside of the barrel with a thin layer of oil. To make the adjustments, see the diagram in your manual. Happy Shooting! Sailing ‘way off topic, tell me about a “choked barrel”, please? Should I oil my air rifle barrel? You’ve revealed me as a liar (outside my circle of fishing buddies). Anything along these lines readers have tried and liked I’d be interested to hear, too. Receive 10% off your next order when you sign up for PyramydAir.com emails. For people who are trying to find Air Rifle Lethality And Air Rifle Oil Barrel review. Your rifle was not designed for lead-free pellets. And what gun was you using? Oiling is essential to the longevity and performance of your air gun so it is imperative to understand the basics. Let’s take a look and find out all you need to know about these matters so your air rifle stays in peak working order. I used to love WD-40 for the smell more than anything. Tip 1. A drop of the oil on pivot points and O-ring seals will keep things working smoothly. The design that I’m trying now uses 4″ strips of tee shirt and sweatshirt about 14″ long stapled to a 2″ wide strip of OSB cut 5′ long. I eventually put a scope on guns that are more accurate than my unassisted eyes except in the case of 10 meter guns. I’m looking for options other than open sights for a pistol, and am not sure I want to go with a pistol scope (though open to recommendations there too). But they are definitely not appropriate for gun maintenance. I am of the frugal type as well. They sounded quite sure in their statement. My design, if it works, will be 5 feet long and should allow for shooting indoors with no ricochets and the ability to use the BBs over and over.

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